182. All the groundwork is laid by Zaloga. This new U.S. gun had successfully penetrated 8.5 inches of armor at 1,000 yards at 30 degrees. IS-2 Vs. Pershing Vs. King Tiger. The special 90mm ammunition had produced a muzzle velocity of 3,850 feet per second, or some 600 feet per second faster than the 88mm of the King Tiger. The next day the T-26 destroyed a Mk. American medium tank, named in honor of General John Pershing, who led the American Expeditionary Force during World War I. ( Log Out /  ... German King Tiger, or Tiger II. The crew did not have enough time to examine their trophy though as a fire fight had broke out between the infantry and germans within the building. If you know anything about tanks, you would know about the short-lived success of the first tiger tank ( Panzer lv). While the Tiger I had been i During the final battles on World War II's Western Front, the legendary German Tiger I heavy tank clashed with the brand-new M26 Pershing fielded by the United States. Who would win in a battle, a Super Pershing or a King Tiger. Its longer-barreled (and thus higher velocity) KwK 43 88-millimeter cannon could penetrate five inches of armor at a range of two kilometers (1.2 miles). Somewhere along the line the "Tiger" became a King Tiger. Note: Sources include the book Spearhead in the West (1946 edition); the book Death Traps by Belton Cooper; and the book Another River, Another Town and personal writings by John P. Irwin. Followers 0. This new U.S. gun had successfully penetrated 8.5 inches of armor at 1,000 yards at 30 degrees. The King Tiger was the largest tank to ever enter mass production with about 492 of them being made. The two will experience no gun jams or breakdowns. The Super Pershing (aka T26E4-1) was equipped with a new long-barreled T15E1 90mm gun that was designed to out-perform the German high-velocity 88mm on the King Tiger. In an effort to match the firepower of the King Tiger's more powerful 88 mm KwK 43, the T15E1 90 mm gun was developed and mounted in a T26E1 in January 1945. The T15E1 gun was 73 calibers in length and had a much longer high capacity chamber. The brave and capable noncommissioned officer had one weakness. Somewhere along the line the "Tiger" became a King Tiger. Only two Super Pershings were ever built, and the 3AD had the only one in the European Theater - an experimental version with its remarkably long barrel. The The 90-mm M3 gun of the Pershing was similar to the German 88 mm KwK 36 used on the Tiger I. It would be the first and only meeting between a King Tiger and the Super Pershing, a modified standard M26 Pershing weighing 53 tons - an almost "secret" tank that, to this day, remains largely an enigma to military historians. Reply. Getting serious here, the M26 Pershing was designed during World War II to specifically … There is also WWB's "Too little, too late", and of course Rune's "Clash of the Titans". Later 25 T26E4 Super Pershings were build (but did not see action). The enemy tank fired one shell at the Super Pershing which ricocheted. The crew quickly loaded an Armor Piercing round and destroyed the tank. The King Tiger had well-sloped armor that was six inches thick on the front hull. October 14, 2012 at 3:15 pm. The Germans reserved the 'best steel' for the Tiger 1, the King Tiger …

During the final battles on World War II's Western Front, the legendary German Tiger I heavy tank clashed with the brand-new M26 Pershing fielded by the United States. This leads me to believe that it was either a Tiger or a Panzer IV. Save Share. The Super Pershing then knocked it out with a shot to the belly as the German tank tried to climb over a pile of rubble. This is because, according to the Gunner’s story, he shot underneath it, since it was attempting to go over some rubble. DEY 0 Posted September 21, 2005. English; Deutsch; français; español ; magyar; polski; čeština; русский; Tiếng Việt; WoT Tank Compare v.9.15. At 50 tons and with a 88 mm gun. Is there any historical evidence that a Super-Pershing T26E1 engaged a King Tiger at Dessau on April 21, 1945 and took it out? Let’s say both are in top mechanical condition and both crews are of equal experience. The Tiger I had earned a formidable reputation by the end of 1944, although its non-sloped armour and poor mobility meant it was being superseded by the Tiger II or 'King Tiger'. 20 T26E3 (normal M26 Pershing) were deployed as part of Zebra mission and saw action. This new U.S. gun had successfully penetrated 8.5 inches of armor at 1,000 yards at 30 degrees. Close. The shootout at Dessau between the Super Pershing and the King Tiger on 21 April 1945 is documented on the 3rd Armored Division History Foundation website at []. Note the 73 caliber gun to compete with the 88 mm KwK 43 L/71 gun on the King Tiger . Unknown to the crew, a german King Tiger was waiting 600 yards away in the same direction the tank was turning. Create a free website or blog at WordPress.com. Joined: Nov 15, 2008 Messages: 365 Likes Received: 47. the_patr1ck said: Super Pershing vs. King Tiger - Dessau On this site, there is the only … The Tiger I had earned a formidable reputation by the end of 1944, although its non-sloped armour and poor mobility meant it was being superseded by the Tiger II or 'King Tiger'. The tank weighed a little more then 70 tons and had an armor thickness in the front of about 3.9 to 7.1 inches depending on the angle. US "Super Pershing" vs. Germany's "King Tiger" Sign in to follow this . He was severely claustrophobic, and during any fighting he usually stood up in the turret of his vehicle … Daniel Russ. Duel 80: Pershing vs Tiger [56-690] 20.50EUR During the final battles on World War II's Western Front, the legendary German Tiger I heavy tank clashed with the brand-new M26 Pershing fielded by the United States. Abgeschossene 10,078 Abgeschossene 10,078 Hyperion forever! ( Log Out /  The King Tiger had much heavier armor(max 185mm) and the M26 was not well protected against its gun (8,8cm Kwk43 L/71). I love only that which they defend.”. Link to post Share on other sites. So I decided to repeat the scenario I did year ago. Additional armor plating and other modifications were made in Germany. 0. But the shot, a non-armor-piercing high explosive (HE) shell, had no effect. During the final battles on World War II's Western Front, the legendary German Tiger I heavy tank clashed with the brand-new M26 Pershing fielded by the United States. A German shot passed between the M26’s tracks! DEY. The shell missed, going right over the Super Pershing. While the Tiger I had been in the front lines since 1942, the US Pershing first entered combat in late February 1945, and more than 20 Pershings would see action before war's end. Super Pershing vs. King Tiger - Dessau On this site, there is the only combat between Super Pershing and Tiger - it seems that experimental American tanks were tougher than their German equivalents. The battle only last only 20 seconds. Member; 10,078 12,795 posts; Gender: Male; Location: Egypt; 5439 The Enhansed Squadron … In 1944–1946 in the U.S. Army, the M26 was temporarily classified as heavy tank. Since Pershings are rather weaker to other foreign tanks namely Tiger I and Tiger Ii and the IS-3 and most super-heavy tanks, using Pershings in numbers are highly recommended to supplant the offsets. Later 25 T26E4 Super Pershings were build (but did not see action). The story started out as the tank being a "Tiger", which is what the Super Pershing's gunner identified it as in his memoirs. Many depends on tactical situation,the Pershing was built lower,the turret traverse as faster,both of them fired very accurately.The Pershing was maybe faster but the KT was able to turn in place. Super Pershing vs. King Tiger - Dessau A nice story for those interested in armor. Here we are comparing an American heavy tank (Pershing) to a German heavy tank ( Tiger ll). The Pershing returned fire, penetrating the lower plate of the Panzer, causing the ammunition to explode and the turret to fly off. Lyle F. … In any case, no serious damage was done – probably a lucky glancing impact.

During the final battles on World War II's Western Front, the legendary German Tiger I heavy tank clashed with the brand-new M26 Pershing fielded by the United States. The Tiger II is a German heavy tank of the Second World War.The final official German designation was Panzerkampfwagen Tiger Ausf.B, often shortened to Tiger B. By Steven J. Zaloga This book examines the dramatic Tiger/Pershing duel at Elsdorf in Germany, and also assesses the clashes between German armour and the sole 'Super Pershing' deployed to Europe. There are several CMBO scenarios that feature the Pershing / Super Pershing vs the King Tiger matchup. Who would win in a battle, a Super Pershing or a King Tiger. World of tanks - comparing tanks side by side: M26 Pershing vs. Tiger I vs. T-150 WW2. This tank was designated T26E1-1. In the second battle, the Super Pershing allegedly destroyed a King Tiger by hitting its bottom and causing an ammo rack explosion. The Tiger I had earned a formidable reputation by the end of 1944, although its non-sloped armour and poor mobility meant it was being superseded by the Tiger II or 'King Tiger'. It was never known if this shot came from the Tiger, or from some other anti-tank weapon. I found mixed resources on the battle but apparently this is where the super Pershing knocked out the king tiger but i think it could be fake because of the missing documents that say the king tiger was there. Maduri and crew then felt a concussion or thud on the turret. The Tiger I had earned a formidable reputation by the end of 1944, although its non-sloped armour and poor mobility meant it was being superseded by the Tiger II or 'King Tiger'. There was 1 T26E1-1 Super Pershing. Adding a whole 7 tons to the tanks weight but only decreasing its top speed by 8 mph. Super Pershing vs King Tiger also known as Tiger II Men of War Assault Squad 2 editor scenario is here. The vehicle's drawbacks included an overloaded suspension and engine-transmission group, as well as excessive general mass. Starting in February 1945 these vehicles took part in World War II; in 1950–1951 the vehicle saw combat in the Korean War. Did you know that… - M26 was developed by the Americans as a vehicle equal to the German King Tiger - there was a plan to produce 1000 Super Pershings, but in the end only 25 were produced Don't be too hard on the poor Tiger crew. The Super Pershing was equipped with the newly made T15E1 90mm cannon. Followers 0. Irwin described this German tank as a Tiger II, but Zaloga was skeptical of this claim, as there was a very small number of Tiger II tanks in Western Europe in 1945." And a gun. Modules: Auto select: Stock values Top values . It's one of the great tank duels of World War II, when an American Super Pershing went head-to-head with the dreaded German King Tiger in Dessau in April 194... Super Pershing vs King Tiger Duel 1945 - … In this Osprey "Duel" title, "Pershing vs Tiger - Germany 1945", Steven Zaloga gives us an excellent comparison of heavy vs. heavy in late WWII ETO. This has been discussed to great length on other forums specialized on WW2 or tanks, aswell as on certain blogs. It was quoted in the main article here on Wikepedia but keeps getting disputed and removed. American medium tank, named in honor of General John Pershing, who led the American Expeditionary Force during World War I. W założeniu nowa konstrukcja miała być zdolna zniszczyć każdy napotkany niemiecki czołg. The first round, an HE round, bounced off the Tigers hull. This tank was designated T26E1-1. Nazi Germany's Tiger is arguably the most famous tank of World War II. 3AD's "Super Pershing" vs. Germany's "King Tiger" WWII's two most powerful tanks meet in a historic encounter DUEL AT DESSAU - on April 21, 1945 A Spearhead One-on-One Tank Victory by Website Staff Only three days before the 3rd Armored Division's final combat action of WWII, a Super Pershing of the 33rd Armored Regiment met and defeated the most powerful and most heavily armored German … Most of the German armor in the west had to be pulled out and put on the eastern front to stop the advancing soviets, but on April 21st, The crew commanded by SSgt Joe Maduri, had their “wish.”, The 3rd Armored Division had commenced a 4 pronged attack on the on the city of Dessau in Germany. Tiger 2 (P) Vs. T26E1-1 "Super Pershing" RB Ground. At any rate if it is true, it is a testament to the tanks design. So i've just unlocked my Tiger 2 (P) and now im encountering a handful T26E1-1 each game. the_patr1ck, Aug 3, 2009 #12. Bottom Photo: German King Tiger, or Tiger II. Even more remarkable, it had penetrated 13 inches of armor at 100 yards. Posted by 4 hours ago. Modern sloped armour, one of the best guns "in the business", by design a very capable vehicle. I have seen it written. Followers 0. 310 were send to Europe before the end of the war but the first 20 saw most action. The Tiger I had earned a formidable reputation by the end of 1944, although its non-sloped armor and poor mobility meant it was being superseded by the Tiger II or "King Tiger." The Super Pershing (aka T26E4-1) was equipped with a new long-barreled T15E1 90mm gun that was designed to out-perform the German high-velocity 88mm on the King Tiger. At seventy-five tons, it was bigger than its predecessor. “Super Pershing vs. King Tiger” 3 days before the 3rd Armored Division was to leave Europe, a battle broke out between the newly made American T26E4-1, or Super Pershing, and the formidable German King Tiger. The special 90mm ammunition had produced a muzzle … Super Pershing vs. King Tiger. Gunner Cpl John “Jack” Irwin, only 18 years old, responded almost instantly with a round that struck the Tiger’s huge angled glasis, or front plate. In an effort to match the firepower of the Königstiger's more powerful 88 mm KwK43, the T15E1 90 mm gun was developed and mounted in a T26E1 in January 1945. In the city of Dessau, on April 21, 1945, as the 3rd Armored Division advanced, the tank was engaged by what was widely believed to be a Tiger II. There was 1 T26E1-1 Super Pershing. The field tests of the regular Pershing showed that it could not stand up against the german heavy guns, so they added 50 more millimeters of armor platting in the front. Apr 26, 2009 #1 Were there any cases of King Tiger tanks against Pershing tanks in … :) and i agree it should be the is3 instead of is2. Your email address will not be published. An American Super Pershing slugged it out with a German King Tiger. Share this post. The gun was the best of its time. Ricocheting off the armor, it shot skyward and exploded harmlessly. http://www.3ad.com/history/wwll/feature.pages/super.pershing.1.htm. I agree that most GI's in the ETO would call any German tank a Tiger but as a tank gunner I would bet my money that Irwin knew the difference between a Tiger & the other German models. October … I have no idea if it is real. At Dessau on April 21 st 1945, a T-26 Super Pershing exchanged rounds with a 77 ton King Tiger tank and destroyed in at 50 yards. ( Log Out /  The Tiger I had earned a formidable reputation by the end of 1944, although its non-sloped armour and poor mobility meant it was being superseded by the Tiger II or 'King Tiger'. Change ), You are commenting using your Facebook account. With near certainty, the entire crew was killed.'”. Change ), You are commenting using your Twitter account. Prev ; 1; 2; Next; Page 2 of 2 . 1. WW2. Quote; Link to post Share on other sites. Comparing: Tiger II vs. M26 Pershing The most heavily armored tank carrying the most powerful anti-tank gun. World of tanks - comparing tanks side by side: M26 Pershing vs. Tiger I vs. T-150. Even more remarkable, it had penetrated 13 inches of armor at 100 yards. 5 Panther tank. Sentinel Member. The Super Pershing (aka T26E4-1) was equipped with a new long-barreled T15E1 90mm gun that was designed to out-perform the German high-velocity 88mm on the King Tiger. Edited January 29, 2005 by djenin. Super Pershing. In testing, this new U.S. gun had successfully penetrated 8.5 inches of armor at 1,000 yards at 30 degrees. The shot then hit the ammo locker and the tank exploded. Being supported by the 36th Infantry, the tank had reached an intersection. In the next instant, Irwin aimed and fired a second time, just as the royal monster was moving forward and raising up over a pile of rubble. Sign in to follow this . Pod koniec wojny pojawiła się bardzo krótka, niemal eksperymentalna seria super ciężkiego czołgu T26E4-1 Super Pershing, cięższa o 7 ton od zwykłego Pershinga, uzbrojona w nową, długolufową wersję armaty 90 mm T15E1. The impetus for the development of the Tiger as well as the Pershing, their design phase and … The Army Ordinance had been anxious to get this tank into combat as fast as possible, hoping that it would be able to go up against the infamous King Tiger. The 90 mm M3 gun of the Pershing was similar to the German 88 mm KwK 36 used on the Tiger I. The supposed “Tiger II” destroyed by the Super Pershing was either an entirely fake story, made for US Propaganda, or it was a Panzer IV. A good read for a cold day. Starting in February 1945 these vehicles took part in World War II; in 1950–1951 the vehicle saw combat in the Korean War. An American Super Pershing slugged it out with a German King Tiger. Nothing could match the 8.8 cm KwK 43 until the Soviet 100mm D-10t and the american 90mm T15E1. The ordnance inventory designation was Sd.Kfz. Featuring full-colour artwork, carefully chosen photographs and specially commissioned maps, this is … Super Pershing vs. King Tiger - Dessau On this site, there is the only combat between Super Pershing and Tiger - it seems that experimental American tanks were tougher than their German equivalents. At 1600 yards -if that was the range- a KT could've stood side-on (if it wanted to) against most-all the weaponry the U.S. could throw at it without so much as scratching the paint! ( Sd.Kfz. 4 thoughts on “King Tiger Versus Super Pershing.” Marcel. Compare; Tank list; About / Contact; Comparing: M26 Pershing vs. Tiger I vs. T-150. Reactions: WendyZXZ, Charlie686, spud_.308 and 4 others. The U.S. tank was manned by an experienced crew under the command of Staff Sergeant Joseph Matira of Massachusetts. 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